Estoril is gone. Maybe Jerez too. The regional government think that there are better things to spend German tax payers money on.
India is a definite possibility.
Edited by ninjasquaddie, 01 July 2012 - 11:50 AM.
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 11:50 AM
Contract has been signed for Argentina. I would LOVE it if Cal won there. :-)
Estoril is gone. Maybe Jerez too. The regional government think that there are better things to spend German tax payers money on.
India is a definite possibility.
Estoril is gone. Maybe Jerez too. The regional government think that there are better things to spend German tax payers money on.
India is a definite possibility.
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 12:11 PM
They're talking to the Qatari officials because they want India on but because of when the WSBK is on there, it would mean India would have to be GP round 1, but Qatar pay extra for being the first event.
Sentul might be on but that's an outside bet.
Jerez should stay I'd say as they need the gate money. I hear BSB may be going to Jerez too next season as they head towards Euro Superbikes instead of BSB as we know it.
Tobe
Sentul might be on but that's an outside bet.
Jerez should stay I'd say as they need the gate money. I hear BSB may be going to Jerez too next season as they head towards Euro Superbikes instead of BSB as we know it.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:41 AM
Contract has been signed for India, but the date thingy is to be worked out that's why no official announcements have been made. India is extremely hot from April - June, then the monsoons arrive in July to start of October, so the only feasible date seems to be March for which Motogp would have to start early.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:40 PM
Contract has been signed for India, but the date thingy is to be worked out that's why no official announcements have been made. India is extremely hot from April - June, then the monsoons arrive in July to start of October, so the only feasible date seems to be March for which Motogp would have to start early.
And the extra money received from Qatar to be Round One would have to be forfeited.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:45 PM
They're talking to the Qatari officials because they want India on but because of when the WSBK is on there, it would mean India would have to be GP round 1, but Qatar pay extra for being the first event.
Sentul might be on but that's an outside bet.
Jerez should stay I'd say as they need the gate money. I hear BSB may be going to Jerez too next season as they head towards Euro Superbikes instead of BSB as we know it.
Tobe
What's this? More info Tobes! Are they planning on taking on WSBK?
Edited by yamaduc, 02 July 2012 - 11:46 PM.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 12:27 AM
I'm speculating here but it sounds more like they are trying to revive the old European championships. Not so much a contender as a series to grow in prior to the worlds. BSB is doing Assen this season.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:12 AM
It's been coming. Running 200bhp+ bikes around some of the British circuits (and now without traction control) is not safe enough any longer. The tracks were never designed to handle that kind of power. I know it's a very romantic notion, to see those guys around Cadwell and Knockhill and even Brands Hatch, but it is bordering on dangerous for danger's sake now. I'm not the only one to spot it. I've been commenting on this for about 3 years now. At Cadwell Park, the medical crew and the marshalls have been on red alert from 8am on a Friday morning until 6pm on a Sunday because of the close calls and accidents. I watched half of Knockhill through my fingers. It's lunacy. I know it's inherently dangerous and the guys sign their contracts etc, but take away the romantic notion of BSB being an awesome series (which it is) and look at it without the rose tinted glasses and it's only a matter of time.
The BSB top people, MSVR and Higgs etc, are aware of the situation and as far as I have heard they are running Assen this year as a tester for plans to come. Those plans would see the GP standard tracks like Donington and Silverstone, plus wider tracks with runoff like Thruxton remain, and then they would add certain European rounds and effectively become half UK based and half Euro based and essentially become European Superbikes.
They would use circuits like Assen and Jerez along with a couple of others to pick up the slack at those tracks as WSBK moves back to running around the world rather than being basically a Euro series with just two fly-away's as has been the case for many years now. They have India and Russia, Australia and the US, and they are looking at Malaysia and Indonesia and others. That allows BSB as we now know it to morph into the Euro series it really has no choice but to become safety wise.
Nobody loves seeing these bikes go round Oulton Park and Brands Hatch more than I, but as above, these tracks were never designed for these bikes we have running now. Brands has been littered with crashes and near tragedy the last few years. The section at Graham Hill bend alone has seen some awful accidents. There will be complaints and opinion but ultimately, for rider safety, I agree it has to happen. Accidents even on the safest GP homologated tracks happen - Marco Simoncelli the obvious example. But they are rare.
Kirkhams crash at Oulton a few weeks back seemed to be laughed off as lucky and he was only bruised and knocked about so it was okay, and a cameraman managed to get away with it. But in reality, that was a case in point. Very fast section of track, very little runoff and had it been a metre the other way, a camera worker could have been killed and a rider could have fared far worse. It's almost like folks are happy to accept it until one of the top guys is killed and then we'll do something about it. That is a British trait I'm afraid. Forethought of zero and reactionary after the fact.
As I said, BSB is awesome and it is kind of catch 22 because it's those tight tracks and the speed on them with the rules package we have here that in part anyway makes it what it is. But you strip that romanticism away and the problem is there, and glaringly so for me.
Tobe
The BSB top people, MSVR and Higgs etc, are aware of the situation and as far as I have heard they are running Assen this year as a tester for plans to come. Those plans would see the GP standard tracks like Donington and Silverstone, plus wider tracks with runoff like Thruxton remain, and then they would add certain European rounds and effectively become half UK based and half Euro based and essentially become European Superbikes.
They would use circuits like Assen and Jerez along with a couple of others to pick up the slack at those tracks as WSBK moves back to running around the world rather than being basically a Euro series with just two fly-away's as has been the case for many years now. They have India and Russia, Australia and the US, and they are looking at Malaysia and Indonesia and others. That allows BSB as we now know it to morph into the Euro series it really has no choice but to become safety wise.
Nobody loves seeing these bikes go round Oulton Park and Brands Hatch more than I, but as above, these tracks were never designed for these bikes we have running now. Brands has been littered with crashes and near tragedy the last few years. The section at Graham Hill bend alone has seen some awful accidents. There will be complaints and opinion but ultimately, for rider safety, I agree it has to happen. Accidents even on the safest GP homologated tracks happen - Marco Simoncelli the obvious example. But they are rare.
Kirkhams crash at Oulton a few weeks back seemed to be laughed off as lucky and he was only bruised and knocked about so it was okay, and a cameraman managed to get away with it. But in reality, that was a case in point. Very fast section of track, very little runoff and had it been a metre the other way, a camera worker could have been killed and a rider could have fared far worse. It's almost like folks are happy to accept it until one of the top guys is killed and then we'll do something about it. That is a British trait I'm afraid. Forethought of zero and reactionary after the fact.
As I said, BSB is awesome and it is kind of catch 22 because it's those tight tracks and the speed on them with the rules package we have here that in part anyway makes it what it is. But you strip that romanticism away and the problem is there, and glaringly so for me.
Tobe
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 01:11 PM
We have the same problem over here. The tracks can't possibly afford to upgrade to the safety levels that modern bikes require.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:47 PM
Actually I have seen fewer bad accidents with the Evo rules - I was expecting lots of high sides - that's a tribute to the skill of the riders. But you're right Tobe, Kirkham's was scary for a few reasons but at the same time ive never seen a crash at that part of the track - safety at the corners you don't expect crashes at are always a concern.
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 01:54 AM
I believe that I read that Austin was removed from next year's calendar. I think Indy is still on it.
After reading what Austin wants to charge to get in the door for F1, most of the shine of that place is gone for me. People thought that Laguna wants to screw people...
After reading what Austin wants to charge to get in the door for F1, most of the shine of that place is gone for me. People thought that Laguna wants to screw people...
Edited by Gary, 06 July 2012 - 01:55 AM.
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